On Friday, February 5th I met with PLUS Model Magazine Creative Editor at Large, Mia Amber and our Industry Liason, Sharon Quinn, for ABC’s NIGHTLINE debate “Is it ok to be fat?” held at The Cooper Union’s Great Hall in NYC.
As we gathered for an exciting evening; other well known faces came ready to watch what would transpire between those that do and those that do not believe “it’s ok to be fat”. In the audience with us was former Mode Editor, Michele Weston, Plus community leader and stylista Catherine Schueller, Holistic health counselor Golda Poretsky, blogger Melissa Davis, plus model Jeannie Ferguson, Editors for Glamour, People Magazine and Hearst.
Moderating the debate was Juju Chang, a beautifully articulate anchor who admittedly told us, after the show, that after going to a doctor she was told she was overweight.
On the panel was, Meme Roth who is also the President and Founder of NAAO (National Action Against Obesity), Crystal Renn, plus size model and author of “Hungry”, Kim Benson who lost over 200 pounds and is now an activist and writer of “Finally Thin!” and Marianne Kirby leader of the Fat Acceptance Movement.
The debate stems from reports that Obesity cost American’s 75 billion dollars last year and could be up to 147 billion dollars in the coming year. Obese America’s are being asked to leave airplane’s because they are too big and the over all treatment and respect is very poor.
For those that did not watch the debate here is a summary of the evenings events.
Meme, whose family is morbidly obese, explains how she follows a 1300 calorie diet when she is not going to run 4 miles a day and 1800 calories on a more regular basis. She believes that our unhealthy behaviors are being passed down to our children and that our bodies “scream to the world” what we are putting in it. Meme believes that if you require two of something, you should pay for two and feels that fat people are NOT discriminated against but that thin people who follow a healthy diet and exercise regularly are being discriminated against because they are subsidizing an obese culture. Yes, you read this correctly. Thin people being discriminated against.
Crystal, who suffered with Anorexia as a straight size model and lost her menstrual cycle for 3 years, believes that people are born with a body set point (give or take 10 to 20 pounds) and that may not always be on the THIN side of the scale. Genetics, as Crystal explained, plays a huge part in how her body has finally reached its healthy weight. One of the highlight’s of the evening was when she called Meme “Fat-phobic”. Go Crystal!
Marianne was engaging, funny and very relaxed even as Meme and Kim continued to act as if she was about to spontaneously combust and they were the Fire Department. She was eloquent and very matter a fact as she explained how her years of yo-yo dieting brought her to a very unhealthy way of life and self loathing. Once she stopped obsessing over the number on the scale her weight remained steady and she is currently healthy and was able to find a doctor that she feels comfortable with and visits for regular check ups. Representing an entire community of people is not an easy task and Marianne took her knowledge and more importantly her own life experiences to explain what life is like as an overweight person in America.
Kim Benson was a morbidly obese woman who took it upon herself to lose weight and change her lifestyle despite the fact that her husband loved every pound of her. Kim was not healthy, happy or living her life to its fullest. She claims that people thank her via email for sharing her life story because their lives were changed and they are no longer eating themselves to death.
My personal view over the debate is this. I watched the NIGHTLINE debate on TV and thought it was very well edited. I wish the show was an hour long because there were some “zingers” in there that I thought the viewers would have enjoyed but I’m happy that Juju was impartial and was an ideal moderator. As a niche magazine who celebrates the plus size industry it would be a misconception to say that we are not activist in some sort of way. Maybe we are not picketing at Meme’s office but we certainly are stating what we believe in by coming together as a group of people who believe that we are just as smart, sexy and beautiful as our thinner counterparts.
To me, health is like religion. It’s a very personal topic and commitment that we have with our mind, body and soul. My father and his side of the family has been plagued with members who suffer from auto immune diseases for many years and when I was old enough I asked my primary care physician to do a genetic test to see if they could uncover if I was going to suffer the same fate. Indeed they were able to find the trait in my body but did not know how it would manifest. When I was diagnosed with MS in 2007 it was not because I was fat. It was because I was genetically predisposed to this gene.
The misconception is that over weight people are sitting at home eating brownies and drinking soda all day long. Yes, some may indeed live like this but guess what? There are some skinny people that also follow unhealthy diets and their bodies are not confessing it Meme! It’s ridiculous to think that you can tell anything from anyone’s outer appearance. For that matter, what does a rapist look like, what does a thief look like or a murderer? If we stopped obsessing over numbers and concentrated on health and treating our bodies with the love and care it deserves I think many of us would stop the yo yo dieting, self loathing and hating on others who are happy with you they are.
I believe that you can be healthy at any size because only YOU know what your medical test say. If you are over weight and suffer from it, then your body DOES need to experience change in the way you take care of it. I don’t believe that you should blindly live life without a care for your medical well being. Instead we should love our curves, celebrate them and be proud of the unique person that we are.
My congratulations to the panel, to ABC and to the audience who spoke on behalf of equality in the US for us all. Let’s focus on the healthy behaviors and making people active instead of hating and criticizing what clearly cannot intelligently be judged.
To watch the show in its entirety the ABC website.
About Editor-in-Chief, Madeline Jones
Always an activist and looking to bring plus size women into a fashion forward mentality, in 2006 she combined forces with friend and online magazine publisher, Valery Amador, to create PLUS Model Magazine, where they could respond to plus women's demand for fashionable clothing displayed prominently on appropriately sized models. Since then, Ms. Jones has quickly become the, 'Anna Wintour' of the plus size industry where she is frequently called upon for her expertise and insight; Appearances and interviews include ABC World News with Diane Sawyer, Entertainment Tonight, Coco Perez, Fox News, HuffingtonPost.com and 200+ other media sources.
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I watched this show and it was a good debate. Meme Roth is definitely “Fat-Phobic” and I am glad that Crystal was gutsy enough to tell her so (on national television no less). I was cracking up laughing at the audience member that pointed out the bias in the title of the show “Is it Ok to Be Fat?” Why not call the show “Is it Ok to Not Be Skinny?” or something along those lines. The way the media depicts overweight people is RIDICULOUS! If this nation wants to blame someone for ruining health care/taxes and etc., why not blame McDonald’s, or all of these other fast food restaurants? Why not go after Whole Foods for their ASTRONOMICAL prices? I absolutely LOVE whole foods, and their healthy meats, fruits, and veggies, but their prices are CRAZY! Grocery stores like ALDI’s have MUCH lower prices, but their food isn’t as good for you. The fact is, it’s REALLY hard to maintain a healthy, normal weight if you’re constantly on the go and eating out as a result, or you simply can’t afford to shop at “Whole Paycheck”. It’s also hard if you have thyroid problems, or are genetically disposed to being overweight.
People REALLY do need to stop making flash judgments about overweight people. It seems as if it’s much easier for some thin, self-righteous people (AHEM…Meme Roth) to look down their noses at us fatso’s and say “Oh why can’t you just be like me?” than it is for us to look at how we can become healthier as a nation! And by the way Meme, did it ever cross your mind that everyone doesn’t want to be thin? My goal size is 12/14. I am currently an 18 (and I make size 18 look GOOOOOD!), but I realize that I need to lose some weight to remain healthy (even though I am not currently experiencing any health problems). However, because of my bone structure, I will NEVER be a stick figure. I would look “sick” if I got down to a size 4. I realize this now as a full-grown adult, but because society puts such pressure on people to be thin, when I actually WAS a size 10/12 back in high school, I didn’t appreciate how beautiful I was. I actually thought I was “fat” then. Can you imagine? LOL!
The question: “Is it ok to be fat?” is just dumb. Let me ask: Is it ok to be thin??
It is ok to be yourself,express self love and live by your own standards. A person’s health is no one concern; some say: “Oh I am concern for your health”…whatever… I notice you are not concern about any other aspects of my life and now you are concern for my health. LOL Moving along, I believe in health at every size too. We are all different, and I think it is not wise to compare your body and vital signs to another person. By the way, fat people are not responsible for the economy and healtcare system. Greedy CEOs, diet and weight loss industry, pharmaceuticals and health insurance companies are responsible for the 75 billion plus. Ok. got it? good. America chooses not to take responsibility for its own mistakes so they are using fat people as an escapegoat. SMH
AMEN sista! Everyone is NOT a stick figure and that is perfectly ok!
I whole-heartedly support this
Dont fall into the “Media” idea of what is Beauty, know that YOU as a Human and Individual are SEXY and Beautiful!
FAT = Fabulous And Thick
I agree with everyone here. You can blam fat people for all the money problems in world, Using large people as scapegoats(which they are) is bordline racist. I think there are only two people who should matter in your weight, YOURSELF AND YOUR DOCTOR. Do you know now thay consider being a size 8 fat! Yes I don’t know why people feel that if you are not a size 0 you are unhealthy. That is a lie, and I think people like Meme spread lies and fears becasue they cannot accept people who are different. My family is always asking me (” hay are you ok, I mean are you ok your big and all and we just want to know if you are ok” you see I am the think one of the family and despite the fact have a ballroom dance class on the weekend can out dance my skinny sisters and walk 20 minutes a day , they still feel I am not healty becasue I am not a size 0.